Daniel Webster Ridenour

Notes:

Listed in 1850 Campbell County, Tennessee census with uncle and aunt Peter and Philpena Loy and grandmother Philpena Sharp Loy. Listed in Preble County, Ohio 1860 census living in the home of Mary Piatt.

Enlisted when 19 years old in Civil War at Eaton, Preble County, Ohio, 17 April 1861 in Company C 20th Ohio Infantry under Kelly's Command in the Army of Occupation West Virginia, mustered out 18 August 1861. After expiration of time, reenlisted 28 August 1861 in Company E 22nd Ohio and was mustered out 18 November 1864 at Benton Barracks, Missouri a corporal. He then enlisted 13 February 1865 as Private in Company I 187th regiment, was promoted to sergeant, demoted back to Private 8 September 1865 and mustered out of service 20 January 1866 at Macon, Georgia making four years and seven months service for his Country and holding three honorable discharges.

He was in many prominent battles among which was Corinth where a Texas Brigade charged them seven lines deep. Was with Grant in the fierce conflict at Shiloh, where the brave 22nd served the enemy eighty rounds in succession.

Twenty thousand were killed and wounded (both sides) in the terrific struggle, most of the three days siege was fought in the woods and at close range.

Daniel was with the taking of Forts Henry and Donelson and the thrilling siege of Vicksburg until the "planting of the Colors" upon the enemy's works. In the National Cemetery in Vicksburg among the regimental marble slabs is one denoting the position of the brave 22nd Ohio in that great battle.

Daniel was with Sherman in his March from Atlanta to the Sea. In all the experience of those exciting years he was only slightly wounded in the heel, was in a hospital a short time with malaria.

At the time of his death he was a member of W. H. L Wallace Post No. 66 G. A. R. in Eldorado, Kansas. The Chapter was draped thirty days in his memory.

Death: Pneumonia and heart failure.
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Reference:
Anna O. Sawyer Ridenour Notes, 1902, p 7.

I enlisted in Eaton, Ohio, April 17th, 1861, for three months served four months, and was discharged; re-enlisted and served four years and seven months all told. That compares well with most of the old boys.

I commenced trying to be soldier at Hamilton, Ohio, - went on guard, tackled our rations regularly, cooked, slept on the soft side of boards and thought it was great fun playing soldier. It was fun compared with the real service that awaited us when we were on the march, camping, cooking, carrying our guns, knapsacks, canteens, etc. in all 50 pounds weight. It wasn't all sweet in the south then, no indeedy. Tired and footsore, we would go into camp at night, make a supper of coffee and hard tack and when ready to fall over asleep from weariness, hear the rasping voice of the 1st Sergant: "Ridenor, you'll have to go on picket tonight" What would a good fellow do? Growl a little and say: "Why don't you detail So and so?" "Now you come along. No fooling. This is what you are here for." Away we'd go; watch all night or something to shoot and note that a little stump a foot or so tall in the evening would stretch itself up to ten feet in height and walking straight at and intending to shoot you on the picket post. Rain, sleet, snow, mud, dust, good or bad weather, it was the never-ending routine, and to obey orders and ask no questions. That's what it took to make a good soldier.

Tough as was our soldiering, we had many jolly hours. We were young and full of blood, our pulses bounding, our hearts light and we saw the bright side of about everything. I must say however that the disagreeables overbalanced the agreeables.

I tell you when we were on line of battle waiting orders to advance, "guide right; march; steady;" we lived a lifetime in a few minutes. It was waiting, inaction that tired our nerves. Our minds had time to dwell on things dangerous to our bodies. When the word came we were glad of it though no one could say whether he would come out alive.

At Shiloh our captain came along our front serving 40 rounds extra, 80 rounds in all. We knew that meant hot work. One of our men stepped out and said to the captain, "I am afraid to go into the fight." The captain's words will not bear publication and I felt it took more nerve to make an acknowledgment of cowardice than to go into the fight. I can see that "boy," after 34 years, standing before the captain who declining the service of a coward sent him to his tent where he was taken sick. Later he was sent home and in a few weeks died, really "scared to death." Twenty thousand were killed, wounded, and missing (both sides) in that great struggle. I feel pride in it. General Sherman speaks of our regiment four times in his report of the fight and the details he gives are inspiring to all who soldiered for love of country. I recall with pleasure my part in the taking of forts Henry and Donelson; Shiloh, siege of Corinth and other brushes with our recreant southern brothers.
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Reference:
Daniel W. Ridenour testimonial.

Bruce E. Ridenour writes A. L. L. Hamilton from Joliet, Illinois, under date of
January 4th, as follows:

I take this means of informing you that Dan W. Ridenour, my father, was taken sick Sunday morning, December 29th, with a heavy chill. Monday and Tuesday he was some better and the doctor pronounced it grippe, but Wednesday night he was suddenly taken worse and his case speedily developed into pneumonia. He suffered untold agonies until he became unconscious this morning at 11 o'clock. He died this afternoon at ten minutes past three, January 4th. Our doctor could have saved him had it not been for an attack of heart failure.
Yours in sorrow,
Bruce E. Ridenour.
518 Oneida Street, Joliet, Illinois

Mr. Ridenour was a resident of El Dorado for thirteen years. He was born in Ohio and was a harness maker by trade. In 1886 he moved from Clarinda, Iowa to Caldwell this state. Two years later he purchased the harness business of James Dodwell at El Dorado and moved his family here. About a year ago his son, Bruce, secured a position as book keeper for an electric light company of Joliet. A short time after that Mr. Ridenour moved his family to Joliet and he went to work at his trade. Mr. Ridenour was a soldier and enjoyed living over those strenuous times with the old boys, as much as any of them. He served in Ohio regiments for four years and seven months service. When the first call was made he went for three months service. When his time expired he re-enlisted for three years and after that he veterened for the war.

Mr. Ridenour was a good man, a kind and loving husband and father. Besides his wife he leaves a son and two daughters, all grown, Bruce E., and Misses Myrth and Blanche.

Mr. Ridenour, speaking of his service during the war, said, not long before he left El Dorado:

At Corinth a Texas brigade charged us seven lines deep. The gunners mowed swaths through their ranks with grape and canister and yet they closed up their ranks and came on, stopping for nothing until they came to our breast works. Their Colonel was killed in the charge and left on the field. No words can express the awfulness I felt in going over that field where the dead were literally piled up and the cries of the wounded will never be forgotten while life lasts.

Some think we old boys are not dying fast enough. We are satisfied to stay a little longer and as a comrade falls out, slain by the common enemy, Death, we just close up ranks as we did in the battles for the Union; where if a soldier was shot we would close up the gap and move forward, not stopping to think of the fallen one.

It is only a question of time when the last of us must fall out, with no rank to close. We need not fear, we fought the good fight, won the greatest victories of modern times and when we bivouac

"On Fames's eternal camping ground,"

it will be with the consciousness that we have left the noblest heritage to our children, a united country.

I did my duty as a soldier to the best of my ability. I am proud of my record. I would not change it if I could. I feel that I was fortunate to escape the dangers that threatened me and all soldiers during the Civil war.

D. W. Ridenour

D. W. Ridenour -- comrade, good citizen and honest man died at his home Joliet, Illinois last Saturday. Another soldier of the trying times of 1863 to '65 gone. When I heard the news this morning how the memories of old association came thronging through the mind. The hours of pleasure spent in his shop when he was a resident of our city, where we could talk over our old times with kindred spirits -- how vividly this last drama awakens us to the fact that we have lost a friend.

If we miss him from memory how much more does the family circle with the familiar face of father and husband gone from every place in the home?

R. C. Young

El Dorado Times

Daniel Webster Ridenour built a house in Clarinda, Iowa in 1875.

Buried in SE 1/4 Lot 66 Block D in Oakwood Cemetery with wife and only son.
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Reference:
"Anna O Sawyer notes", 1902, p 6.
Daniel W. Ridenour Civil War Pension Papers, US National Archives.
Delores A. Wood, dawood@usit.net.
21 May 1998, Becky Hilbert, RJH885@aol.com.

Military details:
OHIO
TWENTIETH INFANTRY
(Three Months)

Twentieth Infantry. - (Three Months' Service.) Col., Thomas Morton; Lieut.-Col., John W. Cruikshank; Maj., Charles N. Lamison. The companies composing this organization were enrolled as follows: A and F, April 20, at Lima; B, April 19, at Oxford; C and D, April 22, at Eaton; E, April 17, at St. Mary's; G, April 25, at Chesterville; H, April 27, at Sidney; I, April 22, at Steubenville, and K, April 25, at Columbus. Cos. A, B, C, D, I and K were ordered to Camp Jackson, Columbus, and E F, G and H to Camp Goddard, Zanesville. The quota being full under the president's first call for 75,000 troops, the muster and regimental organization was delayed for several weeks, until the companies were mustered into state service. After being mustered in the six companies at Camp Jackson joined the remainder of the regiment at Zanesville and there the regimental organization was formed and the equipment and drilling for the field actively engaged in until early in June, when it was ordered to move to Virginia. Arriving at Bellaire, it crossed the Ohio river to Benwood, and was distributed along the line of the Baltimore & Ohio railroad as far as Grafton, with headquarters at Fairmount. The regiment performed a large amount of marching and guard duty, and rendered valuable service to the government in assisting to stay the progress of the Confederates, who were endeavoring to carry the war into the North. Its entire service was in this direction, with the exception of one expedition made to counteract the retreat of the Confederates from Carrick's ford. It would have been successful in this expedition if the news had not been carried to the enemy of its approach. The regiment then being on top of Knobby mountain, the Confederates at once broke camp and moved towards Petersburg. Its term of enlistment about to expire, the regiment moved back on the railroad for a few days and was then ordered home to be mustered out, which was done on Aug. 18, 1861. The casualties during its brief period of service were 2 killed in a railroad accident, 1 died from accidental gunshot wound, and 7 died of disease.


OHIO
TWENTY-SECOND INFANTRY
(Three Years)

Twenty-second Infantry. - (Three Years' Service.) Cols., Crafts J. Wright, Oliver Wood; Lieut.-Cols., Joseph Felix St. James, Benjamin T. Wright, Homer Thrall; Majs., Charles W. Anderson, George R. French. This regiment, although originally known as the 13th Mo., organized at St. Louis, from Aug. 9 to Nov. 5, 1861, to serve for three years, was commanded by Ohio officers and its ranks filled mainly by soldiers from this state. Its designation was changed to the 22nd Ohio infantry by order of the secretary of war, May 29, 1862. Its first baptism of fire was at Fort Donelson, Tenn., and in that engagement the regiment behaved very creditably. At Shiloh the numerical force of the regiment was 450 officers and men and during the two days of that well-contested battle it was warmly engaged, losing in killed and wounded 89 officers and men. In the slow and tedious advance on Corinth, succeeding the battle of Shiloh, the regiment was continually in the front. On the evacuation of Corinth by the enemy it marched with the army to Booneville, Miss., in pursuit and then returned to Corinth. It joined in the pursuit of the Confederates after their attempt to recapture the place had been repulsed in October, but, like the whole army engaged in that fruitless race, gained no laurels. While on garrison duty at Trenton, Tenn., in Dec., 1862, a detachment of the 22nd captured the notorious guerrilla chief, Col. Dawson, who afterward died in the Alton (Ill.)
penitentiary. The regiment participated in the occupation of Little Rock, Ark., in Sept., 1863, and during the year following remained on guard duty in that state. In Oct., 1864, it received orders to report at Camp Dennison, Ohio, to complete its record and be mustered out of service, which was done on Nov. 18.

22nd OH Infantry
Organized: on 3/29/62
Mustered Out: 11/18/64

Officers Killed or Mortally Wounded: 2
Officers Died of Disease, Accidents, etc.: 2
Enlisted Men Killed or Mortally Wounded: 36
Enlisted Men Died of Disease, Accidents, etc.: 167

From
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Division
Corps
Army
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Jul '62
Sep '62
2
2
District of Corinth
District and Army of West Tennessee


Sep '62
Oct '62
1
2
District of Corinth
District and Army of West Tennessee


Sep '62
Nov '62
2
2
District of Corinth
District and Army of West Tennessee


Oct '62
Dec '62
2

District Corinth, 13
District and Army of West Tennessee
Desig changed from 14th MO Inf 11/20/62

Dec '62
Dec '62
2
District of Corinth
17
Department of the Tennessee


Dec '62
Mar '63
4
District of Jackson
Left Wing, 16
Department of the Tennessee


Mar '63
May '63
2
3
16
Department of the Tennessee


May '63
Jul '63
2
Kimball's Provisional
16
Department of the Tennessee


Jul '63
Aug '63
2
Kimball's
District of East AR
Department of the Tennessee


Aug '63
Jan '64
2
2nd

Arkansas Expedition


Jan '64
Mar '64
2
2
7
Department of Arkansas


Mar '64
May '64
3
3
7
Department of Arkansas


May '64
Feb '65
2
2
7
Department of Arkansas


Feb '65
Aug '65
1
3
7
Department of Arkansas
Mustered Out

OHIO
ONE HUNDRED and EIGHTY-SEVENTH INFANTRY
(One Year)

One Hundred and Eighty-seventh Infantry. - Col., Andrew R. Z. Dawson; Lieut-Col., Llewellyn R. Davis; Maj., Daniel A. Russell. This regiment was organized at Camp Chase, March 2, 1865, to serve for one year, and left on March 3 for Nashville, Tenn. On its arrival at Nashville it was met by orders to report at Dalton, Ga. From Dalton the regiment marched to Kingston. Marching back to Dalton it went into camp for some 30 days, when the railroad being repaired it was placed on the cars and sent to Macon, Ga. It performed provost duty in Macon until Jan. 20, 1866, when it was mustered out in mustered out in accordance with orders from the war department.

Daniel married Anna Olivia Sawyer 3 May 1872, Clarinda, Page County, Iowa. Anna (daughter of Alfred Sawyer and Lury Ann Macomber Fay) was born 22 Jan 1848, Westford, Chittenden County, Vermont; died 23 Mar 1932, Joliet, Will County, Illinois; was buried 25 Mar 1932, Oakwood Cemetery, Joliet, Will County, Illinois. [Group Sheet]

1. Myrth Ridenour was born 5 Jul 1874, Clarinda, Page County, Iowa; died 19 Feb 1958.
2. Bruce Eugene Ridenour was born 20 Jan 1878, Clarinda, Iowa; died 13 Feb 1962; was buried 15 Feb 1962, Oakwood Cemetery, Joliet, Will County, Illinois.
3. Blanche Ridenour was born 13 May 1882, Clarinda, Page County, Iowa; died 18 Nov 1974, Evanston, Cook County, Illinois; was buried Elmhurst Memorial Cemetery, Joliet, Will County, Illinois.

Notes:

"http://www.cosmos.org/HTML/d0002/g0000040.htm#11235"

Living in 1840 in Campbell County, Tennessee.

Ancestral File also lists given name as Alex and Eleander.

Alexander Ridenour and John Loy were joint owners of some land in 1st Civil Dist. Campbell Co. TN, their heirs, Henderson Loy and George Whiten, 03071865 Common Pleas Court, Campbell Co. TN, petitioned court, 02101865, to sell land. Land sold 02071866 to James H. Phillips, s/o John Phillips-Catherine. Taxes were unpaid for 1862, 1864 and 1865
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Reference:
"Anna O Sawyer notes", March 1916, p 5.
"One-From-Two letter", 31 July 1992, Melvin Otho Ridenour, p 1, 2.
"One-From-Two", 20 January 1991, Melvin Otho Ridenour, p 129.

Alexandor married Sara T. Loy Abt 1830. Sara (daughter of John Loy, II and Philopena Sharp) was born Abt 1813, Campbell County, Tennessee; died 1849, Campbell County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• AFN: 1CL7-3B6
• Reference Number: 1CL7-3B6

Notes:

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Reference:
"Anna O Sawyer notes", March 1916, p 5.
"One-From-Two", July 1992, p 1.

Other Events:

• Burial: 1935, Bakers Forge Memorial Cemetery, La Follette, Campbell County, Tennessee

Notes:

Henry is believed to have married four times. Not all of his marriage dates are known and most of his children's birth dates are known.

Henry grew up on the Yadkin River at the Boone Settlement, North Carolina. From early youth he was an explorer with Indian traders west of the mountains, learning several Indian languages. He enlisted in the 11th Virginia Continental Line at Hampshire County, Virginia in the Revolutionary War. He was a flatboat man and helped transport goods down the Ohio from present-day Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to French settlements in present-day Illinois and Indiana. In 1788, he was captured by the Northern Indians near Maysville, Kentucky, and taken to Detroit, Michigan. Arthur Campbell secured his release from the Indians. Upon his return, he took a fine horse from Col. Campbell to Squire Boone's Station near Louisville, Kentucky. Later, he was a visitor along the Powell and Clinch Rivers. He visited many times at George Yoakum's Station in Powell Valley, and at Sharp's Station south of the Clinch River in Big Valley.

Near the close of the century, he went to England and Holland. On his return from Europe, he came to Knoxville, Tennessee. Shortly after 1800 he built a log structure near the juncture of Powell and Clinch Rivers to be used as a church and a school for his large family. The church, known as Mt. Moriah Methodist Church, was re-built at the same site three times before it was taken by the TVA in 1935.

A family story said that William was given the family bible, in which all the family was listed, to safeguard. Another story indicated that Barbara was the last known one to have it.

Henry was living in Campbell County, Tennessee in 1815, listed in John Grants Clinch River Ferry account book.

In 1850, Henry was living with his son Daniel Webster and his wife Mary Ann in 16 Subdivision, Anderson County, Tennessee.

Henry was buried in Mt. Moriah Cemetery, Anderson County Tennessee, now under Lake Norris, Tennessee. He was re-interred in 1935 in Bakers Forge Memorial Cemetery, La Follette, Campbell County, Tennessee where a new tombstone is placed:

Henry Ridenour
Born ca. 1760
Died ca. 1840
Pvt. Virginia Line
Revolutionary War
Placed by the Tennessee
Society Sons of the Revolution
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Reference:
"One-From-Two", 20 January 1991, Melvin Otho Ridenour, p 39, 129.
Melvin Otho Ridenour Letter, 21 Jan 1995, p 2.
"Ancestors are Forever", Melvin Otho Ridenour, 13 March 1996.
"Ancestors are Forever", Melvin Otho Ridenour, 14 July 1996.

Henry married Cox Bef 1800. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

One record lists 1837 Jacksboro, Campbell County, Tennessee, Miss Cox, a Cherokee Indian.

http://www.geocities.com/brenfoster/Sold8.html
lists her given name as Nancy

Other Events:

• AFN: 1CL6-QKR

Notes:

John and Philopena Sharp Loy, natives of Orange County, North Carolina, first appear in the land records of Campbell County, Tennessee, on October 19, 1811, at which time they purchased 400 acres on the north side of the Clinch River from Conrad Sharp. John Loy died between 1847 (last land record in which I have found him to be a living participant) and 1850 (no longer appears in census). Philopena Sharp Loy died 1850 or later, because she appears in the home of her son, Peter Loy, in the 1850 census.
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Reference:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnunion/loy.htm

John married Philopena Sharp Abt 1790. Philopena (daughter of Isaac Sharp and Maria Philopena Graves) was born 1772, Orange County, North Carolina; died Aft 1850, Hagerstown, Wayne County, Indiana. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• AFN: 1CL6-R0F

Notes:

Location of birth not confirmed.

The 1850 Census showed her living with her son - Peter Loy in Campbell County, Tennessee. Actual death date unknown, but after 1850.

Notes:

John Ridenour served in the Revolution. As a young man he left his Hagerstown, Maryland home and plunged into the wilderness. John Ridenour and his family moved to Berkeley County, Virginia in 1794 then to Tennessee before 1800.

He is found with his family in 1797 in Montgomery County, Virginia where, on 29 June, Caty (Noe) and John "Ridennour" gave consent for their son, Joseph "Ridenhour" to marry Mary Sharp. Mary's father, John Sharp, consented to the marriage and Peter Harmon, Martin Ritennour, William Sharp and George Sharp were witnesses and provided security.

Two months later, on 11 August 1797, John "Ritenour" consented to the marriage of his son, John "Ritennour," to Mary "Harloss." These names are spelled as they appear in the original records. Henry Harless and Mary Havin, parents of Mary, gave their consent to the marriage, while Peter Harmon and Thomas Smith were witnesses and provided security. Both John and Joseph Ridenauer were under age at the time of their marriages and thus parental consent was required.

John Ridenour Senior with his two sons, John Jr. and Martin, were pioneers at Grantsborough and followed the river traffic for more than forty years. Leading a life of a hunter and trapper he floated his furs to New Orleans. He roved through the middle west with the Indians, learning two or three Indian dialects. He knew many of the famous hunters of pioneer times.

There is a John Ridenour listed in the 1830 Anderson County, Tennessee census with 3 males 40-50, 1 male 30-40, 2 males 20-30, 2 males 15-20, 1 male 0-5, 1 female 70-80, 1 female 50-60, 1 female 15-20, and 1 female 0-5 years old.

Will of John Ridenour Probated 10 January 1828

In the Name of God Amen, I John Ridenour Senior of Campbell County and State of Tennessee, being very sick and weak in body but of perfect mind and memory, do make and ordain this my last will and testament that is to say, principally, first of all, I give and bequeath my body to earth to be buried in a Christian like manner and my soul to God, secondly I give and bequeath to my son John Ridenour a piece of land lying on Indian Creek below John Sharp's mill containing 20 acres. Thirdly I give and bequeath to my son Martin Ridenour my chestnut sorrel mare, and my cow and all my notes and accounts that I have in my hands now and all my tools and my trunk and one little wheel and one small oven and one check real, three pewter plates and one dish and one bed stead and I ordain my son Martin my executer of this my last will and testament, signed, sealed and pronounced by said John Ridenour as his last will and testament in the presence of us.

George Sharp His
Her John R Ridenour Mar Her
Nancy X Scaggs Mark
Mark

State Of Tennessee, Campbell County Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions
10 January 1828
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Reference:
"One-From-Two letter", 31 July 1992, Melvin Otho Ridenour p 2.
"One-From-Two", 20 January 1991, Melvin Otho Ridenour, p 28, 39, 45, 54, 76.
"Ancestors Are Forever letter", 5 October 1992, Melvin Otho Ridenour, p 2.
"Ancestors Are Forever", 17 September 1991, Melvin Otho Ridenour, p 386.
Melvin Otho Ridenour Letter, 21 Jan 1995, p 2.
"The Noe/Noey/Noah Family", Elizabeth (Noah) Yost, August 1993, p 15.

John married Catherine "Caty" Noe 1770/1779, , Maryland. Catherine (daughter of Peter Noe and Hannah) was born Abt 1746, Orange County, North Carolina; died Aft 1782. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

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Reference:
"One-From-Two letter", 31 July 1992, Melvin Otho Ridenour p 2.
"One-From-Two", 20 January 1991, Melvin Otho Ridenour, p 28, 39, 45, 54, 76.
"Ancestors Are Forever letter", 5 October 1992, Melvin Otho Ridenour, p 2.
"The Noe/Noey/Noah Family", Elizabeth (Noah) Yost, August 1993, p 15.

Other Events:

• AFN: HRQW-8G

Notes:

John served in the Revolutionary War, but his pension application {http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/military/reject.txt} was rejected for lack of proof of sufficient service.

Some records have given John's birth date as 1 April 1747. This was an error, due to a DAR submission in 1962 by descendant Jean May (Waggener) Chapin. In the DAR application papers, she writes ancestor's name, then begins to put her 11 April birth date and place as Stanberry, MO. She then realized her mistake, that it was meant to be her ancestor's data to go there, erased it, and typed in 1747, birthplace Pennsylvania. Because a faint 1 April can still be seen, many researchers (including the author of Know Your Relatives, who used this as a source!) have thought this to be John's birth date. Another date discrepancy I've found is Mary (Holt) Loy's death date. As of yet, I haven't found her death date, but it may have been after the 1842 baptism of the dead done by John's niece Margaret Ann (Loy) Clapp, since Margaret's uncle John was listed as deceased, but not his wife. The 15 August 1801 date often given as Mary's death was really the date her father John Holt made a Deed of Gift to his children in Orange Co., NC. In it he lists his children, among them Mary Loy.

Some researchers have listed another son of John and Mary as "Solomon Loy." I have not listed this as a son, because I have found no proof of his existence. The earliest record I have of a researcher mentioning "John's son" Solomon, is from Flossie (Loy) DeMoss' 1957 DAR application, stating he was a brother of her ancestor Jacob Loy, son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy. Her sources included Know Your Relatives, although in that source, no Solomon was stated to have been a son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy.

In what I nickname "The Albright Book" ("Ancestry of the Albright and Holt Families of Clay Co., MO), Claribel (Albright) McClain lists in her 1941 and 1984 versions of there being a Solomon Loy, son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, but no dates are really known, just an estimate. (Note: I only have photocopy of the page from her 1984 version, but assume the same was listed in 1941 as well.)

One history mentions "Solomon" in place of Henry Loy, and lists Henry's descendants under him. If I remember right, this was from the Harvey Loy history, but will need to check my photocopies of his manuscript to confirm this. Another source, which I believe to be from Carroll (Loy) Stewart (again, I'll have to check my files for the photocopies) mentioned that this same Solomon Loy lived in Chatham County, North Carolina and was in the 1840 census there. The only Solomon Loy there is record of, and who is the same Solomon Loy in the 1840 census, is Solomon, s/o Henry, s/o John and Mary (Holt) Loy. Solomon was a well-known potter in his community, and whose kilns were the subject of an archaeological expedition by then college student Linda Carnes.

Thus, it is my belief researchers have confused this Solomon as being a son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, rather than a grandson. My question is, did John or Mary (Holt) Loy leave any other legal documents stating their children's names? Someone hinted that John didn't have a will, which I haven't yet perused to see if fact, and I wonder if anyone has checked to see if Mary could have left a will or some kind of deed of gift. If there's anyone out there who might be able to have access to the NC records, perhaps you could be able to verify this for us.

John Loy is mentioned in the Early Orange Co., NC Tax Records {http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/orange/census/earlytax.txt} for 1779, the 1790 Orange Co., NC Census, the 1800 Orange Co., NC Census {http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/orange/census/oran1800.txt}, the 1810 {http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/orange/census/oran1810.txt}, the 1820 Orange Co., NC Census {http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/orange/census/oran1820.txt}, the 1830 Orange Co., NC Census, and the 1840 Orange Co., NC Census.
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Reference:
http://members.stratos.net/mikeandcindy/dat5.htm#1
http://members.fortunecity.com/loyhistory/john2.html

John married Mary Duffie Holt Abt 1767. Mary (daughter of John Holt and Mary Elizabeth Bobo) was born Abt 1750, Culpeper County, Virginia; died 15 Aug 1801, Orange County, North Carolina. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• AFN: 1CM3-VXF
• Reference Number: HRQW-CD

Notes:

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Reference:
http://members.stratos.net/mikeandcindy/dat5.htm#1

Notes:

Olds, Fred A. Abstracts of Wills in North Carolina. Oxford: Clearfield Co., 1925, page 223
1782 SHARP, ISAAC, Phillippina, John, Bostron, Peter, Christian, Elizabeth.

Isaac married Maria Philopena Graves 1765, , Orange, North Carolina. Maria (daughter of John Sebastion Graves and Maria Magdalena "Catherine" Fuchs) was born 8 Aug 1751, Pennsylvania; died 4 Mar 1815; was buried Stoner's Cemetery, Burlington, Alamance County, North Carolina. [Group Sheet]