John Loy

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John served in the Revolutionary War, but his pension application {http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/military/reject.txt} was rejected for lack of proof of sufficient service.

Some records have given John's birth date as 1 April 1747. This was an error, due to a DAR submission in 1962 by descendant Jean May (Waggener) Chapin. In the DAR application papers, she writes ancestor's name, then begins to put her 11 April birth date and place as Stanberry, MO. She then realized her mistake, that it was meant to be her ancestor's data to go there, erased it, and typed in 1747, birthplace Pennsylvania. Because a faint 1 April can still be seen, many researchers (including the author of Know Your Relatives, who used this as a source!) have thought this to be John's birth date. Another date discrepancy I've found is Mary (Holt) Loy's death date. As of yet, I haven't found her death date, but it may have been after the 1842 baptism of the dead done by John's niece Margaret Ann (Loy) Clapp, since Margaret's uncle John was listed as deceased, but not his wife. The 15 August 1801 date often given as Mary's death was really the date her father John Holt made a Deed of Gift to his children in Orange Co., NC. In it he lists his children, among them Mary Loy.

Some researchers have listed another son of John and Mary as "Solomon Loy." I have not listed this as a son, because I have found no proof of his existence. The earliest record I have of a researcher mentioning "John's son" Solomon, is from Flossie (Loy) DeMoss' 1957 DAR application, stating he was a brother of her ancestor Jacob Loy, son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy. Her sources included Know Your Relatives, although in that source, no Solomon was stated to have been a son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy.

In what I nickname "The Albright Book" ("Ancestry of the Albright and Holt Families of Clay Co., MO), Claribel (Albright) McClain lists in her 1941 and 1984 versions of there being a Solomon Loy, son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, but no dates are really known, just an estimate. (Note: I only have photocopy of the page from her 1984 version, but assume the same was listed in 1941 as well.)

One history mentions "Solomon" in place of Henry Loy, and lists Henry's descendants under him. If I remember right, this was from the Harvey Loy history, but will need to check my photocopies of his manuscript to confirm this. Another source, which I believe to be from Carroll (Loy) Stewart (again, I'll have to check my files for the photocopies) mentioned that this same Solomon Loy lived in Chatham County, North Carolina and was in the 1840 census there. The only Solomon Loy there is record of, and who is the same Solomon Loy in the 1840 census, is Solomon, s/o Henry, s/o John and Mary (Holt) Loy. Solomon was a well-known potter in his community, and whose kilns were the subject of an archaeological expedition by then college student Linda Carnes.

Thus, it is my belief researchers have confused this Solomon as being a son of John and Mary (Holt) Loy, rather than a grandson. My question is, did John or Mary (Holt) Loy leave any other legal documents stating their children's names? Someone hinted that John didn't have a will, which I haven't yet perused to see if fact, and I wonder if anyone has checked to see if Mary could have left a will or some kind of deed of gift. If there's anyone out there who might be able to have access to the NC records, perhaps you could be able to verify this for us.

John Loy is mentioned in the Early Orange Co., NC Tax Records {http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/orange/census/earlytax.txt} for 1779, the 1790 Orange Co., NC Census, the 1800 Orange Co., NC Census {http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/orange/census/oran1800.txt}, the 1810 {http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/orange/census/oran1810.txt}, the 1820 Orange Co., NC Census {http://c-23.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/orange/census/oran1820.txt}, the 1830 Orange Co., NC Census, and the 1840 Orange Co., NC Census.
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Reference:
http://members.stratos.net/mikeandcindy/dat5.htm#1
http://members.fortunecity.com/loyhistory/john2.html

John married Polly Sellers Bef 1768. [Group Sheet]

John married Mary Duffie Holt Abt 1767. Mary (daughter of John Holt and Mary Elizabeth Bobo) was born Abt 1750, Culpeper County, Virginia; died 15 Aug 1801, Orange County, North Carolina. [Group Sheet]

1. Jacob Loy was born Abt 1768, Orange County, North Carolina; died Aft 1806.
2. John Loy, II was born 1770, Orange County, North Carolina; died 3 May 1840, Campbell County, Tennessee.
3. George Loy was born Abt 1771, Orange County, North Carolina.
4. Solomon Loy was born Abt 1773, , Orange, North Carolina.
5. Martin Loy was born 9 Sep 1775, , Orange, North Carolina; died 4 May 1836, Glensfork Creek, Adair, Kentucky.
6. Henry Loy was born Abt 1777, , Orange, North Carolina; died Aft 1796.
7. Mary Loy was born Abt 1781, Hillsboro, Orange, North Carolina; died Aft 1806.
8. Loy was born Abt 1783, Hillsboro, Orange, North Carolina.
9. Loy was born Abt 1790, Hillsboro, Orange, North Carolina.
10. Michael Loy was born Abt 1792, Hillsboro, Orange, North Carolina.

Notes:

Martin arrived in PA from Germany on the ship "St. Mark" 26 September 1741. His will {martin1will.html} was dated 15 July 1777, proven May 1779.
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http://members.fortunecity.com/loyhistory/martin1.html

Martin married Catherine Faust 1745, Berks County, Pennsylvania. [Group Sheet]